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  Just reading some of the latest brochure

  by therevealer in

  1. jw
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  who are doing jehovah's will today?.

  something i found a bit strange - that is the title of the brochure but on page three it asks - what is god's will?

  and it says "god wants us to live in peace and happiness on a paradise earth forever!".

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  cha ching

  So, are the annointed growing at a higher percentage of increase than the publishers?
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  Being pressured and getting increasingly stressed.

  by NBird in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello, i'm a 17 year old born in and i'm done with this religion.

  one hundred percent.

  i came to the conclusion a year ago that i wanted to leave.

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  How about saying something like this? "Mom, I don't think I am going to study with brother so & so anymore. He is trying to live my life for me, by setting goals for me, I want to set my own"

  "Getting baptized is like getting married, and I want to make sure that I am doing it because I want to, not because of pressure."

  and like LostGeneration said, and I totallllly agree.... "Jesus wasn't baptized until 30, and he was a perfect human being.. I am going to follow his example & wait. God doesn't want me to do things because of pressure from other people."

  Getting a job is good too! Yep, good idea... or, take some extra college classes at night? (When you are in high school, at least where I live, classes count double for you.. They count toward high school graduation, and you get college credit using the same amount of time & energy)

  As all have said before me, do not get baptized.....

  wishing you well, hang in there!

  cha ching ;-)
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  Protesting

  by zound in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is watchtower baiting apostates with this new awake?.

  "is protest the answer?".

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201307/is-protest-the-answer/.

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  cha ching

  Apostates Protesting?

  
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  "Worldly people don't love the same as Jehovah's Witnesses"

  by Comatose in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in a conversation with my mum she said, "son the friends love you and care about you so much.

  they would die for you.

  that's something you don't find in the world.

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  cha ching

  I am coming to the sad reallization that there really is no "reality" with J.W's. Within their group, all can be comfy and cozy, but put them out to view by "the world," and their comfort zone disappears.

  So many people, for so many years have said "until they see it for themselves," until "it happens to them," there will be no helpling.

  Most are actually cold hearted... I say that because, altho I had so many friends, not many will even discuss 607, or "if they are led by God's spirit, why are there mistakes?" If someone died because they refused to be "cannibals" and get an "organ transplant," and the next day "the policy" changed, the only thing you will hear is "at least they died loyal.' That is psychopathic. When you cannot have empathy. When you cannot get mad, because you are "not supposed to or you have a bad attitude, or maybe now YOU are an apostate" because you see the hypocrisy.

  Do the "Governing Body" care about pedophile cases? No. Psychopaths are very good at faking emotion, but when it comes down to it, it's not even about the money they lose, it's about "their image." Their "godly image."

  They collect their jar of hearts, who do they think they are?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  cha ching

  2+2=5 The WT 11/01/11 page23.. the "Note"... right above the picture (on the left) says:

  "None of the secular experts quoted in this article hold that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C.E."

  Regarding the Egibi business records? check out page 24, same WT, footnote at bottom of 2nd column.. written in oh so small letters:

  "Business tablets exist for all the years traditionally attributed to the Neo-Babylonian kings. When the years that these kings ruled are totalled, and a calculation is made back from the last Neo-Babylonian king, Nabonidus THE DATE REACHED FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM IS.... 587 B.C.E. "

  cha ching! cha ching!
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  cha ching

  THX, Londo... for the idea/ link... a very good series, arp7601 does a very nice job (only made it thru #1, so far) ....

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOjmHne4iyk&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLbmeC6mEPIHU

  I like that fact that the WT is onlyhung by their very.... own.... words...

  cha ching
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  cha ching

  Dear Ann,

  You hit the nail on the head: (to Scholar) "How WT of you not to provide a specific reference"

  This was one of the very things that had me running when I read those "two scholarly articles" of Oct & Nov of 2011..

  Oct 1, 2011 WT, page 31, pgph 2 states "Why did Ptolemy omit some rulers? Evidently, he did not consider them to be legitimate rulers of Babylon (footnote 10)

  So, I look at the footnote, knowing full well that:

  in the past, the WT (and it's other publications that I have studied from childhood, over and over and over and over again) and the Bible, has listed all the kings, in order, for this time period.

  What does this foot note say??? " "Some scholars contend that certain kings were ommitted by Ptolemy..."

  Nothing... no list, no names, no nothing. A whole article, supported by nothing......

  When people have the truth, they should be able to produce evidence.

  Words like "evidently" and "some scholars" can be used by anybody at anytime, and prove nothing.....

  again, I must happily reply,

  cha ching, cha ching, you aren't getting my bling no more$$$
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  cha ching

  Londo: Again, thx!!one of my children watched your whole series of videos, and it made them feel so much better in the manner of presentation.

  This child is always having bad dreams of being sucked back into the WT, and this eased their mind with the logic, and sensibleness, and non-aggressive style.

  I also think, that because you are so OPPOSITE OF THE WT, in that you do NOT do their thinking, OFFER THE CHOICE, and have them do "homework," and come to their own conclusions, people can have the dignity that every human should have...

  The right to make up their ownmind about something ....... without fear of being disfellowshipped, shunned, cast off forever.... (kind of sounds like burning in hell, hmm?) all over a DATE! listen to that... a DATE that merely promotes the rule of the governing body.

  Jesus never said you have to believe in a date, he simply said, "love your neighbor as yourself."
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  cha ching

  Jeffro: thank you for all of your hard work also, and thx for the link. So much work, so little time, tho I have investigated much, bought astrolony books, etc. on my own.. thank you.

  Scholar/WTBTS: thank you for "your two scholarly articles," they helped both me and my family escape! Right from the "horses" mouth. What could be better?

  Cha Ching Cha Ching...no more bling!$$$
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  A Video Series about 607 BC vs 587 BC

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the main series playlist:.

  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plynx0om_bmgbfmnapjr_v5fe9_pf8sqa1.

  this is the accompanying video appendix:.

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  cha ching

  We really enjoyed your series, watched all of them.

  I liked the info from Matthew 1:11, 12 regarding Jeconaiah, 11 Jo·si´ah became father to Jec·o·ni´ah and to his brothers at the time of the deportation to Babylon. 12 After the deportation to Babylon Jec·o·ni´ah became father to She·al´ti·el. .

  You did a lot of hard work (that I also had planned on researching, but did not have the time) coordinating facts, and exposing the hypocrisy of "everyone had to be in Babylon before the 70 years began" garbage.

  I think many can benefit from this well put together, objective, rational, and detailed video.

  Thx! cha ching!